All of that successful building was done outside the mainstream music industry. What got them to that point where they could command that kind of money from one of the pigs? What got them there was the sweat and effort of the band operating on their own. What if they take it? What's wrong with that?Ī: You're divorcing it from the historical context. All an artist is to a record company is an investment, and once the band is a liability, they're gone.Ī hypothetical example: a band gets a one-album, no-strings-attached six-figure deal from a major record label. M: If you're into making money, go ahead and make money, but don't trick yourself into thinking that things are different. What's so inherently bad about taking the money? It's like that with money and most rock bands. It's like saying the alcoholic was okay until he got that first drink. And there are people, who if there were money involved, would take the money. I think within a certain circle there are people who just aren't interested in that sort of thing. And I think one thing about Chicago is we can read through that b.s. It's pretty obvious when you see a band what their motives are, whether it's to make a lot of money, or have a lot of fans, or get themselves an agent, or get on a certain record company. Then it was bands that sounded like Loverboy.īernie: I think the punk rock thing is being able to read though the b.s. That wasn't the case seven or eight years ago. There are now bands that sound like the Stooges making Pepsi commercials, and having lawyers and managers wrangle deals for them behind the scenes. The mainstream has changed stylistically but not procedurally. Where do you go from there?Ī: The underground has remained philosophically coherent and consistent. The guy in Pearl Jam is wearing a Big Black T-shirt. M: The result of the '80s is that now that Esquire magazine says alternative is cool, as evidenced by Lollapalooza, the term "punk rock" has been tainted and ruined. The last one I was involved in like this was in DeKalb (while attending Northern Illinois University) and I put on a show with Big Black (Albini's former band). M: I cut my punk-rock teeth on hall shows.
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